Step-by-step installation, use and removal? #39

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opened 2026-05-05 10:43:05 -07:00 by pitsianis · 3 comments
pitsianis commented 2026-05-05 10:43:05 -07:00 (Migrated from github.com)

I do not have experience using LLMs beyond the Web or the App interface and the "right-hand-side" session panel of VSC.
It would make it easier for noobs like me if there were a more elementary user guide that

  • lists prerequisites (like API keys),
  • walks me through the installation and configuration process,
  • provides a step-by-step example use session, and
  • and offers a no-trace-left-behind removal, if I am not ready for it.

With the current instructions, I am concerned that I will be making a permanent alteration to my Julia installation...

I do not have experience using LLMs beyond the Web or the App interface and the "right-hand-side" session panel of VSC. It would make it easier for noobs like me if there were a more elementary user guide that * lists prerequisites (like API keys), * walks me through the installation and configuration process, * provides a step-by-step example use session, and * and offers a no-trace-left-behind removal, if I am not ready for it. With the current instructions, I am concerned that I will be making a permanent alteration to my Julia installation...
kahliburke commented 2026-06-08 23:14:23 -07:00 (Migrated from github.com)

@pitsianis My apologies for the delay in response. The answer is that you're not making any permanent change. The addition made (upon consent) to the startup file is a small block of code that just allows the REPL to attach to the Kaimon server and automatically make it available to agent sessions.

The domain of AI assisted coding, agents, MCP, models, workflows, best practices, and so on are a relatively new area and I think it's a bit of a Wild West at the moment. I can't do much to help with that but I suppose the docs do presume a bit of familiarity with the space. This probably assumes that you have some agent software running (Claude, codex, gemini, copilot) and that you have used them in their 'bare' state already.

I don't know if this material belongs in a guide in Kaimon, particularly because in order to make any guide I'd need to specialize on one of those commercial offerings and I don't really want to do that.

If you find me on the discourse perhaps we could discuss a little more, I could perhaps answer some specific questions.

As for the leave no trace, it's possible for me to add uninstall automation, but many of these tools already allow you do so natively so I'm not sure what benefit it would offer. 2.0.0 release is upcoming which will provide more information on any global startup changes, which should make it trivial to remove if you want.

@pitsianis My apologies for the delay in response. The answer is that you're not making any permanent change. The addition made (upon consent) to the startup file is a small block of code that just allows the REPL to attach to the Kaimon server and automatically make it available to agent sessions. The domain of AI assisted coding, agents, MCP, models, workflows, best practices, and so on are a relatively new area and I think it's a bit of a Wild West at the moment. I can't do much to help with that but I suppose the docs do presume a bit of familiarity with the space. This probably assumes that you have some agent software running (Claude, codex, gemini, copilot) and that you have used them in their 'bare' state already. I don't know if this material belongs in a guide in Kaimon, particularly because in order to make any guide I'd need to specialize on one of those commercial offerings and I don't really want to do that. If you find me on the discourse perhaps we could discuss a little more, I could perhaps answer some specific questions. As for the leave no trace, it's possible for me to add uninstall automation, but many of these tools already allow you do so natively so I'm not sure what benefit it would offer. 2.0.0 release is upcoming which will provide more information on any global startup changes, which should make it trivial to remove if you want.
pitsianis commented 2026-06-08 23:59:58 -07:00 (Migrated from github.com)

I will try to be the guinea pig and attempt to write such a guide, extrapolating from my insecurities and gaps. See you on discourse.

I will try to be the guinea pig and attempt to write such a guide, extrapolating from my insecurities and gaps. See you on discourse.
kahliburke commented 2026-06-19 16:43:41 -07:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Thanks @pitsianis — these are fair asks, especially the "no-trace-left-behind removal" and a gentle step-by-step for folks coming from the GUI side. We've been in touch on Discourse, so I'll close this here and keep that conversation as the working thread.

The underlying need (a beginner-oriented setup/uninstall guide) is noted and will feed into the docs improvements. Closing to consolidate the discussion — thanks for the thoughtful feedback!

Thanks @pitsianis — these are fair asks, especially the "no-trace-left-behind removal" and a gentle step-by-step for folks coming from the GUI side. We've been in touch on Discourse, so I'll close this here and keep that conversation as the working thread. The underlying need (a beginner-oriented setup/uninstall guide) is noted and will feed into the docs improvements. Closing to consolidate the discussion — thanks for the thoughtful feedback!
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